Did we even HAVE this many King Williams? ;)

[hobbitomm]

Who was....

1) The first Duke of St Albans (c 1680)?
2) The only man on either side who could lose the War in an afternoon?
3) Owner of a chain of model shops? Or is coffee preferable to other hot beverages?
4) Hairoun (‘Land of the Blessed’), or the patron of Valencia, vinters and brickmakers?
5) Famously banned from the Bluewater shopping centre, but more popular at Universities.
6) Perhaps Father Christmas to Tom Cruise’s ex?
7) Duck! Oh no. He’s male!
8) Perhaps another duck (1986), or perhaps a comment of surprise at the level of force in a semi cockney?
9) The villain of Much Ado about Nothing. Or perhaps a castle component?
10) Originally synonymous with cake, but asked to be renamed (transliterated?), in order to sound more British.

And what links them?

Comments

[juliann.livejournal.com]

1- I can't recall his given name (I think the boys were Charles and James but can't recall which is which) but he was christened with the surname Beauclerk and was the eldest son of Nell Gywnne by Charles II.

I don't do these trivia thigs but I couldn't resist tht one!

5 -- Idunno what they have banned besides hoodies and ball caps.

[hobbitomm.livejournal.com]

1) You have the correct individual, but it's crypic, so it's not quite that simple. But you're on the right track.

2) Again, you're on the right track :)

You might enjoy a glance back through my other King William Quizlets ;)

[anthraxia.livejournal.com]

The last one I suspect is Brandenburg - though I have no idea what it got changed to.

#6 - Father Christmas = St Nicholas, Tom Cruise's ex = Nicole Kidman. Nicol?

#7 - Drake?

And what links them? Argh! That they all make my brain hurt...

[hobbitomm.livejournal.com]

10: Not Brandenburg. Different Berg.

6: Wrong Father Christmas, and wrong ex ;)

7: Is indeed Drake :)

[anthraxia.livejournal.com]

Ok, Battenberg.
Which is what I meant to say.

Though personally I'd more honestly describe British Royalty in the late 19th and early 20th centuries as Seedy Cake.

Mmmm. Cake. Must go have breakfast...

[anthraxia.livejournal.com]

Oh, and Batternberg got changed to Mountbatten. So nyah!

[hobbitomm.livejournal.com]

Quite so.

So... You have

7:Drake
10: Prince Louis Battenberg/Lord Louis Mountbatten or his son, the other Lord Mountbatten (of Burma). As luck would have it, either option works just fine for this quiz :).

Care to try and get anymore based on the link? ;)

[anthraxia.livejournal.com]

Oh I don't know. Aparantly Francis changed his name to Drake, so I'm going out on a limb that the link is people who changed their names for all sorts of spurious reasons. Or something.

BTW - Fruitcake (which I am eating right now for breakfast) is equally applicable to my previous statement.

[hobbitomm.livejournal.com]

*laugh*

No. Not the connection. Well. It is for some of them, but it's not the *main* connection ;)

[idaho-smith.livejournal.com]

I think the theme is Admirals, or naval commanders. However No.1 confuses me...

1) The first Duke of St Albans (c 1680)?

Charles Beauclerk (May 8, 1670 - May 10, 1726). Doesn't seem to be a naval man, although his youngest son Lord Aubrey Beauclerk was an RN ship's captain, and there was at least on admiral in the family later on.

2) The only man on either side who could lose the War in an afternoon?

Admiral of the Fleet Sir John Rushworth Jellicoe, 1st Earl Jellicoe.

3) Owner of a chain of model shops? Or is coffee preferable to other hot beverages?

I'm out on a limb here. There was a civilian Captain Valentine Starbuck,who gave his name to Starbuck Island in the Line Islands. Probably the inspriation for the characters in Moby Dick and Battlestar Galactica, who in turn may have been inspired the seattle-base cafe franchise Starbucks. But I can't see the model-shop link and he was only a captain, and almost everyone else seems to be Admirals (or at least de-facto fleet commanders).

4) Hairoun (‘Land of the Blessed’), or the patron of Valencia, vinters and brickmakers?

Hairoun is beer brewed in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines. St Vincent the Deacon is also the patron of vintners (although I can't find the saint of brick makers).
{cogs go around and numbers are severly crunched}
John Jervis, 1st Earl of St Vincent (9 January 1735-14 March 1823) was an admiral in the British Royal Navy. (Althought there is some ambiguity due there being at least 3 Battles of St Vincent)

5) Famously banned from the Bluewater shopping centre, but more popular at Universities.

I had a Uni hoodie - but it disappeared, and I'll never be Bio-Soc Treasurer again (sob)!

I knew there were several Admirals called "Hood". Wikipedia reveals them to be; Samuel Hood, 1st Viscount Hood (1724-1816)
Alexander Hood, 1st Viscount Bridport (1726-1814)
Sir Samuel Hood (1762-1814)
Arthur Hood, 1st Baron Hood (1824-1901)
Horace Lambert Alexander Hood (1870-1916)
and confirms that they were related.

6) Perhaps Father Christmas to Tom Cruise’s ex?

Penelope Cruz dated Tom Cruise for a while. In 2004 she appeared in a movie called Noel. In which she played a character called Nina Vasquez. One deductive leap later I arrive at Francisco Vásquez de Coronado - who a conquistador presumably controlled a fleet of ships. [Lucas Vásquez de Ayllón came second]

7) Duck! Oh no. He’s male!

Sir Francis Drake. This one cracked the naval theme for me although 2) and 5) I worked out without computerised help.

8) Perhaps another duck (1986), or perhaps a comment of surprise at the level of force in a semi cockney?
[How 'ard?]
Charles Howard; commander-in-chief of the British fleet that faced the 1588 Spanish Armada, and hence Drake's boss

9) The villain of Much Ado about Nothing. Or perhaps a castle component?

Don John - Dungeon.
Don John of Austria (February 24, 1547 - October 1, 1578), also known as Juan De Austria and Don Juan de Austria, was the illegitimate son of Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor. As a military leader his most famous victory was at the naval Battle of Lepanto in 1571.
Quite a hard one. The Land-locked austrians are not famous for thier navy.

10) Originally synonymous with cake, but asked to be renamed (transliterated?), in order to sound more British.
I confess that I would have never have guessed that you meant Admiral of the Fleet The Right Honourable Louis Francis Albert Victor Nicholas Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma, KG, GCB, OM, GCSI, GCIE, GCVO, DSO, PC, FRS (25 June 1900 - 27 August 1979). My hat is doffed to anthraxia .

I am surprized you didn't work Admiral Rodney in to the list (yew plonkah!)

[hobbitomm.livejournal.com]

Generally pretty much spot on- so I'll comment... ;)

1) *cackle* Remember I do get cryptic from time to time.

2) Was indeed Jellicoe.

3)Alas, not Starbuck. Splendid name, but wrong :)

4)Yep. St Vincent it is :)

5)Yes, I was thinking of any of the Admirals Hood (specifically the first, and the last- a victim of 'There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today' syndrome at Jutland)

6)This one, I'm afraid you're wrong on. Tho' they sound interesting

7) Yup

8) Indeed so

9) Don John. Quite so. Though he had a hell of bad time politically keeping his (Holy League) fleet together, Lepanto is one of the most crushing tactical victories in naval history. Shame nothing much came of it strategically. The last big hurrah of the galley

10)As you say, cudos to Anthraxia. Tho' his father, Prince Louis of Battenberg was also 1st Sea Lord (at the outbreak of WW1)

[sharikkamur.livejournal.com]

6) Well, Nicole Kidman did have a Christmas hit with Robbie Williams, and there was a notable Admiral Hugh Williams RN involved in missions to Turkey just before the first world war, but that's definitely a bit obscure.

And, becoming even more obscure

3) Rea Admiral Ralph Christie, USN, commanded a submarine flotilla in the Phillipines in WWII. Christies is the model shop in St. Andrews and I could imagine someone faced with a cup of something other than coffee exclaiming "Christ! Tea?" in dismay.

No idea otherwise. :)

[juanfandango.livejournal.com]

Admiral Beattie is the man you're missing.

Although I think Beatties (the model shop chain) is no more. It's probably for the best, given that in their last years they stopped stocking the grassroots stuff.

[hobbitomm.livejournal.com]

Yes indeed.

Admiral of the Fleet Earl Beatty. You will (I hope) forgive the spelling pun ;)

Still outstanding

1) The first Duke of St Albans (c 1680)?
6) Perhaps Father Christmas to Tom Cruise’s ex?


I expect Sharikkamur in particular to get (1) after a previous KWQ :)

[sharikkamur.livejournal.com]

*Groans, bends bouble and groans some more as she realises she's been thinking about the wrong line...*

1) Nelson - the 1st Duke of St. Albans was the son of Charles I and Nell Gwynne. Grr....

Still working on 6.

[hobbitomm.livejournal.com]

*laugh*

I thought you'd get it from that reminder ;)

Yes. It was Nel(l's )son ;)

Let me know when you want more clues as to the other one :)

[hobbitomm.livejournal.com]

*laugh*

No, to both, but that's getting quite interesting.

For 6, might I point you to the ex in question being Penelope Cruz.